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Individual Forex Broker Price Manipulation?

Posted in Forex Broker, Forex Forex Forum on September 6th, 2006

Some time ago I wrote an article on forex broker price manipulation, and in that article I came to the conclusion that I thought it was extremely difficult for forex broker’s to manipulate price as there were just too many variables that worked against the forex broker. Some of these being the fact that the manipulating forex broker would need to assume that you keep your stop order(s) at the price you’ve set, and that there are likely to be no other forex traders taking advantage on the manipulated price.

Now Hans correctly added an insightful comment on that article, by stating that I am acting on the assumption that spiking was done on a global basis - which is correct - and would therefore beg the question: can forex brokers manipulate price on an individual basis?

This is definitely a valid point, and one that I’d to think out loudly on…

Ok, let us assume that we are trading with a forex broker that has spiked us either into or out of a trade.

How would I be able to prove that the spike occurred on my account only?

Just look at a forex chart, right? Well… which one? You wouldn’t be able to check the chart your forex broker offers as they could very well be providing you with data that shows the spike so you wouldn’t be able to use that as proof. To prove individual account manipulation you’d need to check either someone else’s account with the same broker, or a reliable third party forex chart.

The easiest way in proving forex broker manipulation would be to find someone who had a trade that didn’t get transacted when it should’ve where you did. Using a third party chart as verification doesn’t really offer that much in the way of proof. I mean, everybody knows that all forex charts are different and can vary by as much as 5-10 pips during volatile periods… and what would happen if you did find that your broker was manipulating price by using a third party forex data vendor and your forex broker used another third party forex data vendor proving their case too?

Ah, it’s a difficult thing to prove dear friends, and I’m not saying that it doesn’t happen it’s just where does one start when they think they’ve had it happen to them?

And don’t forget one other important aspect dear folks: the forex brokers would need to know what is likely to happen in the future if they are to successfully spike you and take your money. The only time I’d think forex brokers would know of what direction a currency pair is likely to head would be receiving economic information prior to its release - and I do remember reading somewhere that central banks do contact other banks letting them know prior to the announcement what interest rate decisions have been made!

So, in my mind, I’d think that if the central bank is likely to disclose the figures to third parties prior to its announcement, would other organizations do the same? I mean, a human still needs to write up the report do they not? And people talk, do they not? Hmm…

Anyway, I resurrected this topic again after reading through Phil Davis’ The Forex Non-Dealing Desk Trader blog where he provides some insightful commentary on the importance (and differences) between standard dealing desk forex brokers, and a non-dealing desk brokers - with non-dealing desk forex brokers being the preferred.

He also has a forum where forex traders provide stories on their forex trading woes.

Manipulation is a difficult thing to prove, however I don’t doubt that spiking can happen, but the only solution to eradicating this problem would be to centralise the forex market at a transparent exchange - and the undertaking of such an endeavour would be momentous to say the least!!

Forex Factory

Posted in Forex Forex Forum on May 15th, 2005


Probably the only other forex forum that I have frequented and found useful was Forex Factory.

It’s not as active as MoneyTec or Oanda’s FXMessage, but if you’re looking for some good conversation then I would recommend this place.

FXMessage: Oanda’s Own Forum

Posted in Forex Forex Forum, Oanda com, FX Oanda on May 15th, 2005


The second largest forex forum that I frequently visit is the Oanda FXMessage Board.

I like this forum for several reasons:

  • It is hosted by the forex broker: Oanda
  • Oanda’s director and staff occassionally visit and post in the forum
  • Quite a few experienced forex traders visit and post
  • Great way to find out if any problems that you are experiencing are also happening to other people

If you have an Oanda account then you’ll want to frequently visit these forums.

MoneyTec Forum

Posted in Forex Forex Forum on May 15th, 2005


If you are looking for a good forex forum then the best on the internet to date is MoneyTec.

When I initially began forex trading I frequently visited this forum to find out more about how to successfully trade the forex markets. While there was a lot of crap to weed through there were some hidden gems.

As you use the MoneyTec forums you will begin to find which people really know what they’re talking about and you’d be wise to either contact these people yourself (or private message them through the forum) or read what they say (or have said).

So surf the MoneyTec forums and read through some of the longer threads as I found in my experience that the longer the thread the higher the chance of finding some gems.